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Community Notice [Jul. 11th, 2008|08:42 pm]
Tommy Westphall's Mind: A Multiverse Explored


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tommywestphall  is now open to posts by all members of the community.

New Community Information is available on the community's profile page and copied below.

New Members are welcome, but will need to be accepted by the moderator.

Posting by your maintainers has dried up in the last twelve months, while discussion continued in old threads. Any information posted there may be transfered into new community posts, allowing all members an opportunity to discuss these crossover connections.

This new policy is designed to encourage up-to-date discussion.

Community Information: (11/07/08)

- </a></b></a>tommywestphall is now a moderated community: memberships need to be accepted
- Posting access has been granted to all community members, but each post needs to be approved by the moderator
- Posts need to remain On Topic: this means - television shows already linked to the Tommy Westphall Universe OR further connections to the Tommy Westphall Universe
- A full list of up-to-date connections to the Tommy Westphall Universe can be downloaded here (this list will continue to be updated, where the above site will remain static)
- The moderator's decision is final. We want to broaden the discussion by opening posting access to the community, but the decision of whether a post will be added or a link included on the spreadsheet is made by mods alone (healthy discussion in the forums can sway them, unhealthy discussion will not be tolerated)

The old versions of the Westphall Universe PDFs will remain accessible for downloading, but will not be updated in the near future.

I do plan on continuing to update this spreadsheet list of Tommy Westphall shows, though even now it is almost twelve months out-of-date. Future posts by all community members should seek to flesh out this list.

Thanks for your attention.

ETA: The Law & Order spreadsheet has been updated for the upcoming 19th season, scheduled to air in 2009.

From: johnmunch
2008-07-11 11:32 am (UTC)

... about the Wanderers ...

Nice hearing from you.

Do the Wanderers still have a home?

Is westphallian still there?
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[User Picture]From: crossoverman
2008-07-11 11:37 am (UTC)

Re: ... about the Wanderers ...

You should have got me email, re: Wanderers. I'm uploading the file now. It will be at the same link as always, so you can make a post about it soon!

westphallian is doing some wandering of her own.
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From: johnmunch
2008-07-13 10:20 am (UTC)

... they are here ...

Update #16 is now ... well, up. Thanks, crossoverman.

See it at http://home.vicnet.net.au/%7Ekwgow/westphall.doc

No, you did not miss an update - this is the one following #14. A book-keeping mistake on my part.

Please let me know what you think about my inclusion of crossover movies (re BEACH PARTY series).
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From: (Anonymous)
2008-07-14 10:47 pm (UTC)

Re: ... they are here ...

I think it's great that you included movies

After re-reading your list I noticed that you have The Untouchables on there a show which I also have on my list but I think it is a different connection

If you tell me how you got The Untouchables on you list I will tell you how you can get Night Court on there

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From: johnmunch
2008-07-15 12:11 pm (UTC)

Lucy Show/Untouchables

Each list entry connects to at least one other. Ep. #109 of the Lucy Show featured The Untouchables' Robert Stack and Neville Brand as Ness and Nitti, respectively.

It was a spoof, given that Lucy took place in the late 60's and the Untouchables had their days in the 30s. However, chronology - or historicity, for that matter - was never a strong suit of the latter show. The episodes jumped back and forth in time. One gangster could get killed in one show and appear hale and hearty two weeks later. Anyway, it was a character crossover and thus made the grade to my list.

The Lucy Show is further connected to Here´s Lucy, Gomer Pyle USMC, and Hi Honey, I'm Home.

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From: johnmunch
2008-07-15 04:38 pm (UTC)

Re: Lucy Show/Untouchables

The inclusion of movies (as far as I am concerned) will happen only via a TV character connection - just to build it up slowly but surely ;-)

The next update will include info about ALIAS JESSE JAMES (1959) and MAVERICK (1994) - did you notice the plethora of cameos during the riverboat scenes?
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From: (Anonymous)
2008-07-16 03:24 pm (UTC)

Re: Lucy Show/Untouchables

I actually did not notice the cameos in Maverick until you pointed it out to me

To keep my end of the bargain, Conchata Ferrell appeared as Joan Thor her character from the original E/R in the Night Court episode Here's to You, Mrs. Robinson

I hope you don't already have that connection

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From: (Anonymous)
2008-07-16 07:09 pm (UTC)

Re: Lucy Show/Untouchables

I suppose the fact that The Untouchables was filmed at Desilu might have helped prompt this episode, but it sounds great--I never knew about it before.

I definitely think Alias Jesse James is a great "gateway" film for crossovers, and combined with the "Gambler: Luck of the Draw" mini-series and the "Hadley's Hunters" episode of the original Maverick, it really brings in western series.

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From: (Anonymous)
2008-07-17 12:21 pm (UTC)

Re: Lucy Show/Untouchables

johnmunch speaking (darn login acting up again ...):

Thanks for the thumbs up, Hugh.

ALIAS JESSE JAMES brings in directly or indirectly:

Maverick, MAVERICK, Bret Maverick, and Young Maverick;
"Hadley's Hunters" serves as the connection to Sugarfoot, Bronco, Lawman, and Cheyenne as well as to 77 Sunset Strip (!): Kookie´s ancestor works as a livery stableboy (read: valet) at 77 Cherokee Strip;
77 Sunset Strip brings in Conflict (one episode), Hawaiian Eye, Bourbon Street Beat and SurfSide 6;
The Life and Times of Wyatt Earp which brings in Paradise/Guns of Paradise (as well as a compilation movie with some new material);
Bat Masterson;
Gunsmoke (now there's a huge one!), Dirty Sally and - due to the CBS@50 event - Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman;
Davy Crockett (the Fess Parker version), Wagon Train, The Lone Ranger, Roy Rogers, and Annie Oakley.

Sugarfoot also connected to Colt 45.

In addition, MAVERICK brings in
The Virginian/The Men From Shiloh (which GAMBLER IV does not) and Laredo, High Chaparral and Laramie. Also, a case could be made for an ancestral connection to the LETHAL WEAPON movie series.

GAMBLER IV reaps (in additioon to the above)
Kung Fu (with two TVMs) and KF: The Legend Continues,
The Rifleman and Law of the Plainsman,
and The Westerner (making for another two episodes of Zane Grey Theatre).

Presto: 30 more shows, all connected by character crossovers!
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From: johnmunch
2008-07-21 12:04 pm (UTC)

St. Elsewhere/Bewitched

In ep. #7 of StE, Dr. Beale is apparently holding a telephone conversation with Mrs. Stephens, Darren´s mother, according to tv.com.

Can anybody verify that?
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From: tele_toby
2008-07-22 04:36 am (UTC)

Re: St. Elsewhere/Bewitched

I have the boxed set of the first season, so I'll check it out tomorrow morning when I get home from work.
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From: tele_toby
2008-08-03 05:53 am (UTC)

Re: St. Elsewhere/Bewitched

Just an update - somebody had borrowed my copy of the first season. Got it back today and am about to check out episode #7 for the mention....
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From: tele_toby
2008-08-03 08:50 am (UTC)

Re: St. Elsewhere/Bewitched

Here's how it goes: "No, Mrs. Stephens, I don't think your daughter-in-law is a witch..... You actually SAW it levitate? Well, maybe it was an optical illusion....."

So, it works for me as a link!
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From: johnmunch
2008-08-05 12:09 pm (UTC)

Re: St. Elsewhere/Bewitched

Mmm ... okaayy. Thank you for looking it up.

I take it that there is no actual 'voice-appearance' of Mrs. Stephens, right?

St. Elsewhere - The Master Show of Near-Character-Links ...
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From: tele_toby
2008-08-05 12:12 pm (UTC)

Re: St. Elsewhere/Bewitched

No. The conversation was one-sided. He put Mrs. Stephens on hold when Dr. Westphall walked in and then told her he'd get back to her.

But the way I look at it is, somebody had to be on the other end of that call. Why not Mabel Albertson as Mrs. Stephens?

I've got a sick headache.... LOL
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From: wiley_coyote9
2008-08-06 06:29 am (UTC)

Saving Grace = Tommyverse show

I don't think anyone's caught this yet, but the last aired episode of Saving Grace (Wikipedia calls the episode 2-04 "It's a Fierce, White-Hot Mighty Love") ties into the Tommyverse now, because the main character, Grace, opens a pack of those infamous crossover devices, Morley cigarettes, and gives another character one.
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From: yanran336
2010-04-05 05:04 am (UTC)

Re: Saving Grace = Tommyverse show

It is very good information for me. I love Saving Grace series very much. and Holly hunter is my favorite character in it..
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[User Picture]From: waterfall8484
2008-08-11 11:52 am (UTC)
Hi! I just noticed this, and it's a lot of fun! :~D

I'm not sure how the rules are on specials and such, but there was a Children in Need charity special in 1989 that crossed over Doctor Who and EastEnders. (Info here) It's not really considered canon though, as both universes have referred to each other as fictional since. Still, it did happen!
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From: (Anonymous)
2008-08-22 10:46 pm (UTC)

Doctor Who links

In the television series Doctor Who the main character "The Doctor" travels through time and space meeting many different historical figures. For example in one episode he meets Queen Victoria of England. Therefore couldn't any series involving the Queen Victoria character be classified as part of the multiverse?

I mean, he's met a hell of alot of people, that could extend to hundreds of period dramas and serials etc?
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From: johnmunch
2008-08-23 12:54 pm (UTC)

Re: Doctor Who links

Theoretically, yes.

Practically, the ruling goes something like this:

Real life persons (including historical figures) do not count as links between shows except when they are portrayed by the same actors and have production-wise connections.

Cases in point: Adam West portrayed Doc Holliday in three Warner Western shows, and David Fredericks portrayed J. Edgar Hoover in several episodes of The X-Files and Millennium; both shows were produced by Chris Carter.

Usually, shows thus linked by historical characters had their common background already established by the time the historical characters appeared.

Gene Greytak portrayed Pope John Paul II in many TV shows and movies. Does this provide connections?

Back to your question: If Queen Victoria were portrayed by the same actress in Doctor Who and some other show, yes, they would be linked in my opinion.
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From: (Anonymous)
2008-09-11 10:20 am (UTC)
Here's an odd one: alleged sitcom Little Britain crossed over into Australian soap opera Neighbours, as seen in this clip: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=puLWPpiUHjI&feature=related

Dunno if anyone can link either show to the TWU, but there you go.

Additionally, several shows written by Steven Moffat (Press Gang, Joking Apart, Chalk, Coupling and Jekyll) are all linked by characters, places or products. Since Moffat is now taking over the reins of Doctor Who, it wouldn't surprise me if he made a reference to one of these shows, and in doing so brought all five into the TWU.
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From: tele_toby
2008-09-19 12:27 am (UTC)
Can you give us any examples of those crossovers in the Moffat shows? I love that sort of trivia!
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From: (Anonymous)
2008-09-19 12:29 am (UTC)

LA Tribune yet again

CAught an episode of 'Remington Steele' on the American Life Network this week - "Small Town Steele". At the end of the episode, Steele is reading the Los Angeles Tribune!

I've posted a picture of it here:

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From: tele_toby
2008-10-04 04:34 am (UTC)

'Pushing Daisies'/'Dead Like Me'

'Pushing Daisies' linked to 'Dead Like Me' this week with a reference to the Happy Time Temporal Services agency, the same company George worked for when not reaping souls.

There will be several characters crossing over from 'Wonderfalls' later this season as well.....
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[User Picture]From: eikiel
2012-07-27 05:16 pm (UTC)
I'm unsure about the rules of posting additional info in here (do we need to be members to drop a linked show?) but I'm gonna comment anyway, simply because I adore this series and I'm sort of thrilled to add it here.

In Supernatural (currently still airing on the CW) Season 2 episode "The Usual Suspects", there's a short conversation regarding Mulder and Scully from the X-Files. Quote from IMDB here. Hope this is okay and helps a bit~ I'm loving this project, by the way, thanks to everyone involved for all the hard work.
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